On Tony Harris- a video response

by on November 14th, 2012
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Hey there, minions!

Tony Harris, an artist known for working on Iron Man, Starman, and Ex Machina, recently took to Facebook to post a badly misspelled rant on how most cosplayers are, well, vapid attention whores and “fake” nerds:

I cant remember if Ive said this before, but Im gonna say it anyway. I dont give a crap.I appreciate a pretty Gal as much as the next Hetero Male. Sometimes I even go in for some racy type stuff ( keeping the comments PG for my Ladies sake) but dammit, dammit, dammit I am so sick and tired of the whole COSPLAY-Chiks. I know a few who are actually pretty cool-and BIG Shocker, love and read Comics.So as in all things, they are the exception to the rule. Heres the statement I wanna make, based on THE RULE: “Hey! Quasi-Pretty-NOT-Hot-Girl, you are more pathetic than the REAL Nerds, who YOU secretly think are REALLY PATHETIC. But we are onto you. Some of us are aware that you are ever so average on an everyday basis. But you have a couple of things going your way. You are willing to become almost completely Naked in public, and yer either skinny( Well, some or most of you, THINK you are ) or you have Big Boobies. Notice I didnt say GREAT Boobies? You are what I refer to as “CON-HOT”. Well not by my estimation, but according to a LOT of average Comic Book Fans who either RARELY speak to, or NEVER speak to girls. Some Virgins, ALL unconfident when it comes to girls, and the ONE thing they all have in common? The are being preyed on by YOU. You have this really awful need for attention, for people to tell you your pretty, or Hot, and the thought of guys pleasuring themselves to the memory of you hanging on them with your glossy open lips, promising them the Moon and the Stars of pleasure, just makes your head vibrate. After many years of watching this shit go down every 3 seconds around or in front of my booth or table at ANY given Con in the country, I put this together. Well not just me. We are LEGION. And here it is, THE REASON WHY ALL THAT, sickens us: BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT COMICS, BEYOND WHATEVER GOOGLE IMAGE SEARCH YOU DID TO GET REF ON THE MOST MAINSTREAM CHARACTER WITH THE MOST REVEALING COSTUME EVER. And also, if ANY of these guys that you hang on tried to talk to you out of that Con? You wouldnt give them the fucking time of day. Shut up you damned liar, no you would not. Lying, Liar Face. Yer not Comics. Your just the thing that all the Comic Book, AND mainstream press flock to at Cons. And the real reason for the Con, and the damned costumes yer parading around in? That would be Comic Book Artists, and Comic Book Writers who make all that shit up.

Kind fo awful, right? The Internet, predictably, has been eviscerating this guy. Noted artist, feminist, and all-around awesome woman Gail Simone started Cosplay Appreciation Day in response.

I had my own response. Check out my video letter to Mr. Harris:

Those books I mention in the video are still up for grabs, by the way.


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  • Andy

    ah well, who the hell is this guy anyway


  • Andy

    okay, sorry I don’t know his name, but i can see it would matter to offer a good response. The problem is I imagine this would be best done on a one-to-one basis, a person at his side walking through the truth instead of an opinion he’s arrived at, at a distance. Bring him up close, offer an honest truth, person to person. Or, supposing he may go to your page he might stumble upon it. I do not get the impression he’s looking for an answer that’s obviously there, well, here. What a loss. I’m very sorry.


  • Andy

    For my part, a better response follows. I arrived late into the arena of interest in comics. When I started buying them, I had no objection to the sexy women I found displayed on their covers and inside the pages. Indeed, I did and do believe their sexy appearance was by artists’ design to draw interest and increase sales. To his own monetary detriment does the comic artist draw comics without the scantily clad, skinny, and sexy women. It is the artist who back in the beginning was the attention whore. It is a happy coincidence, or indeed a planned simultaneous occurrence, that these characters turned out to be worth the following which their looks initially garnered.

    In my private opinion, those books themselves are intended to drive home the point that there is a depth and hidden treasure in humanity which initial impressions cannot possibly reach.

    Why make Superman look like a human being if there were not some implication that humans themselves are more than they seem? Why would the creators of DC Comics be desperate for it to be thought that Superman can be killed? They knew the work they put into those pages, including the attractiveness of Lois Lane and Lana Lang were important to the development of the characters of Superman and Jimmy Olsen. Ah, we should have made them fat and ugly, then Clark could keep his eye on what’s really important.

    It is outrageous to create them in this manner, encourage the conditions in which we, including myself, should want to appear sometimes in the guise of such a character, and then to call such a person an attention whore.

    I can only say that it’s important those involved in creation of the pictures should also comprehend the essence and purpose behind comics. It is possible, after all, to be involved in its creation and not get the story.

    I would be happy to walk through every piece of that which was missed, including by myself. It is worth doing.


  • Andy

    It occurs to me, unfortunately drawn from my own experience, that long and offensive tirades tend to be a result of several influences that are not actually related to what the writer/speaker wishes to do or convey. I say this from experience, so I will tell what is relevant of my past.
    As a member of a public speaking forum I found that I was struggling with whether being a member was actually improving my speaking. Sure, I had been a member for years, and I liked the atmosphere and what was going on. However, I could see that there would come a time when after spending time and money in this effort, I actually did need to improve because there was a project still to be done, which I had hoped would grow from my improvement in this place.
    My problem was that at the time when this difficulty was beginning to be realized, I spoke to the group, and in a fashion similar to Mr. Harris; unfortunately, I get the impression few were not offended.
    Now looking back, I still see the reason behind that, and I now would choose not to say it at all, or at the least to more carefully identify my own difficulty and the objective that would resolve it.
    Mr. Harris
    I see honesty in your expression of difficulty that arises in Cosplay, and this has to do with scantily clad women who dress in this manner because it is the appearance of some person who appears in comics. I don’t have a problem with admitting this, for myself or anybody else. In fact, I have this problem.
    The complaint itself becomes the difficulty when for its volume, apparent desperation, and connection to what he does for a living, it appears to be without a solution, but most of this is because of how it is presented.
    Look at it like a business. Surely the comics for which you work will have solid business sense. I’ll even go the next part, if it’s a comic worth anything, the writers and producers will walk through every bit of this with you. Of course, if you end at an impasse, my bet is you become jobless; but what did you expect?
    I like the costume of Wonder Woman. I have unfortunately never attended a Cosplay, but I would bet on seeing a woman dressed as Wonder Woman. That’s a fairly sexy costume, and surely scantily clad is the order for her. Is this woman dressed up an example of an attention seeker? If that is so, then the comics themselves should show her dressed in a way we may better accept.
    Wonder Woman was a comic created to become a challenge to women who, until then, had little in the way of women in comics to look up to. She needed to be beautiful; and actually, Lynda Carter was chosen in part because she was – is – beautiful. So, do I dare call up Ms. Carter and tell her that her work as Wonder Woman was too sexy and should not have been so … umm … attractive? Not on your life!
    Comics were created to teach us about ourselves; and it is most certainly in our nature to gravitate and purchase the products that exemplify something we find attractive. More, if those books created with this in mind had turned out to be vapid, pointless, soft porn, their attraction for some certainly would rise; and for others become forbidden. The conscience of the writers and the money from a great part of their purchases both forbid this. It must have an inherent value; and it will be sexy by nature, or the entire genre falls apart.
    Understanding this, I don’t really see this necessitates a change in Cosplay. However, a solid business sense here should prevail. Identify what you really want, and look for some means to get it done, or just stay home. I would be most happy to take your seat. Of course, you wouldn’t want me drawing stick figures, much less believable people, but I digress.


  • Mark fm Spokane

    Well said, Kat. As alway to the point and articulate. That’s why I love you and NN. Keep on keeping on.


  • Phil

    Dear Kat ~
    You’re really growing on me. Last night I dreamt I met you here in NYC. You were on the street with an NN crew member. I introduced myself and you were gracious enough to stop to speak with me. Soon other people recognized you and a small crowd gathered. You began signing autographs for everyone – and then I woke up. :-)
    Wishing you peace and joy this holiday season, along with continued good health and success, I am

    Your loyalest minion,
    Phil


  • Andy

    I watched today’s show. I know I don’t post here very much. Actually, it’s because I’m busy with my friends and loved ones – on DC Universe Online. Never would have guessed how much fun you can have as a villain. Katherine, I think you are a bad influence. I will serve the Kat.

    Best wishes for 2013. I wish you all the best, for you, your husband and son. Do have some fun please.


  • Viktor

    You’re very good with words. Very interesting to listen to.

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